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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.fascinationplace.org/2007/10/30/just-ignore-the-author-behind-the-curtain/comment-page-1/#comment-8567</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 23:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Brian:&lt;/b&gt; the &quot;original&quot; ending of &lt;i&gt;Blade Runner&lt;/i&gt; was tacked on (along with Harrison Ford&#039;s voiceover) at the studio&#039;s insistence, after some unfavorable screenings.  The whole bit of them flying north (over repurposed extra footage from Stanley Kubrick&#039;s &lt;i&gt;The Shining&lt;/i&gt;!) isn&#039;t in Ridley Scott&#039;s &quot;director&#039;s&quot; or &quot;final&quot; cuts.

While I prefer the director&#039;s cut, I think a good case could be made for giving &lt;i&gt;BR&lt;/i&gt; the Criterion &lt;i&gt;Brazil&lt;/i&gt; treatment, and I&#039;m under the impression that&#039;s what will be done with the upcoming box set: one DVD with the &quot;original&quot; version that most people first saw and another disc with the &quot;director&#039;s vision.&quot;  If Lucas had done that with the &lt;i&gt;Star Wars&lt;/i&gt; trilogy to start with--instead of initially insisting that the &quot;original&quot; movies didn&#039;t exist, and then semi-reversing himself and doing a re-release with inferior transfers of the originals--he might have looked like a bit of a hero instead of an arrogant jerk.

&lt;b&gt;Michael:&lt;/b&gt; I think I&#039;m very much in agreement with you.  It&#039;s interesting as a writing issue, not an orientation issue, if it&#039;s not in the text it&#039;s not really there, and Ceej is spot-on except that he thinks there are clues in Grindelwald that I just missed entirely.  Rowling may have accidentally proven that authorial intent &lt;i&gt;can&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; be the controlling thing, since the logical extension of that gets fairly absurd fairly quickly.

I also have to think that the idea of &quot;authorial canon&quot; almost has to be a recent side-effect of mass-communications and copyright extensions.  I have to wonder if Dickens would have even thought he owned any of his characters to the extent a lot of commentators seem to be &lt;i&gt;assuming&lt;/i&gt; is the case to the point that they consider the alternative &quot;absurd.&quot;  And writers like Lovecraft &lt;i&gt;gloried&lt;/i&gt; in being ripped off, encouraging pastiche and viewing it as a complement.  But those were days in which copyrights were short, and an author&#039;s speech about his latest book was heard by a few hundred people &lt;i&gt;at most&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Brian:</b> the &#8220;original&#8221; ending of <i>Blade Runner</i> was tacked on (along with Harrison Ford&#8217;s voiceover) at the studio&#8217;s insistence, after some unfavorable screenings.  The whole bit of them flying north (over repurposed extra footage from Stanley Kubrick&#8217;s <i>The Shining</i>!) isn&#8217;t in Ridley Scott&#8217;s &#8220;director&#8217;s&#8221; or &#8220;final&#8221; cuts.</p>
<p>While I prefer the director&#8217;s cut, I think a good case could be made for giving <i>BR</i> the Criterion <i>Brazil</i> treatment, and I&#8217;m under the impression that&#8217;s what will be done with the upcoming box set: one DVD with the &#8220;original&#8221; version that most people first saw and another disc with the &#8220;director&#8217;s vision.&#8221;  If Lucas had done that with the <i>Star Wars</i> trilogy to start with&#8211;instead of initially insisting that the &#8220;original&#8221; movies didn&#8217;t exist, and then semi-reversing himself and doing a re-release with inferior transfers of the originals&#8211;he might have looked like a bit of a hero instead of an arrogant jerk.</p>
<p><b>Michael:</b> I think I&#8217;m very much in agreement with you.  It&#8217;s interesting as a writing issue, not an orientation issue, if it&#8217;s not in the text it&#8217;s not really there, and Ceej is spot-on except that he thinks there are clues in Grindelwald that I just missed entirely.  Rowling may have accidentally proven that authorial intent <i>can&#8217;t</i> be the controlling thing, since the logical extension of that gets fairly absurd fairly quickly.</p>
<p>I also have to think that the idea of &#8220;authorial canon&#8221; almost has to be a recent side-effect of mass-communications and copyright extensions.  I have to wonder if Dickens would have even thought he owned any of his characters to the extent a lot of commentators seem to be <i>assuming</i> is the case to the point that they consider the alternative &#8220;absurd.&#8221;  And writers like Lovecraft <i>gloried</i> in being ripped off, encouraging pastiche and viewing it as a complement.  But those were days in which copyrights were short, and an author&#8217;s speech about his latest book was heard by a few hundred people <i>at most</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Cole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 08:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I didn&#039;t mean to be ambiguous. I was trying to compare the issue of &lt;em&gt;authorial intent&lt;/em&gt; issue to the issue of Wagner&#039;s music.

Whether Dumbledore is gay is a separate issue. I read the story when I saw the headline, so I guess I must have some interest, but to me Dumbledore is pretty much an asexual character. Then again, I didn&#039;t care much for the whole Ariana/Grindelwald backstory.

I saw the original Blade Runner, but neither of the newer editions. I&#039;ve heard the newer ones make for a better film. I&#039;m not sure how the implication that Deckard could be a replicant would matter much. Actually, I think it would weaken the ending (keep in mind I haven&#039;t seen the revised ending) in that Deckard&#039;s motive for fleeing with Rachael could be considered less pure if he thought he himself might be a replicant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I didn&#8217;t mean to be ambiguous. I was trying to compare the issue of <em>authorial intent</em> issue to the issue of Wagner&#8217;s music.</p>
<p>Whether Dumbledore is gay is a separate issue. I read the story when I saw the headline, so I guess I must have some interest, but to me Dumbledore is pretty much an asexual character. Then again, I didn&#8217;t care much for the whole Ariana/Grindelwald backstory.</p>
<p>I saw the original Blade Runner, but neither of the newer editions. I&#8217;ve heard the newer ones make for a better film. I&#8217;m not sure how the implication that Deckard could be a replicant would matter much. Actually, I think it would weaken the ending (keep in mind I haven&#8217;t seen the revised ending) in that Deckard&#8217;s motive for fleeing with Rachael could be considered less pure if he thought he himself might be a replicant.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Rawdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Rawdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 05:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like I said, I&#039;m pretty indifferent about whether Dumbledore is gay or not.  However, as an example of interpreting fiction, I think it&#039;s a useful thing, and &lt;i&gt;that&#039;s&lt;/i&gt; a subject which does interest me.

It&#039;s similar to the question of whether you-know-who is a you-know-what in &lt;b&gt;Blade Runner&lt;/b&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like I said, I&#8217;m pretty indifferent about whether Dumbledore is gay or not.  However, as an example of interpreting fiction, I think it&#8217;s a useful thing, and <i>that&#8217;s</i> a subject which does interest me.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s similar to the question of whether you-know-who is a you-know-what in <b>Blade Runner</b>.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Cole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 03:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I first saw Rowling quoted as saying, “I always saw Dumbledore as gay.” (I think it was &lt;a href=&quot;http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/10/22/blogospheric-reaction-to-an-outed-wizard/?hp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.) The implication is that &lt;b&gt;she&lt;/b&gt; saw him that way, but the reader is free to think what s/he will.

Then again, you link to Time magazine, which flat out quotes, “Dumbledore is gay.” I would tend to trust Time, as they have fact-checkers and rarely take quotes out of context.

I find the whole issue about as interesting as the debate on whether or not Wagner&#039;s music is anti-Semitic. That is, it can be interesting, but just barely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I first saw Rowling quoted as saying, “I always saw Dumbledore as gay.” (I think it was <a href="http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/10/22/blogospheric-reaction-to-an-outed-wizard/?hp" rel="nofollow">here</a>.) The implication is that <b>she</b> saw him that way, but the reader is free to think what s/he will.</p>
<p>Then again, you link to Time magazine, which flat out quotes, “Dumbledore is gay.” I would tend to trust Time, as they have fact-checkers and rarely take quotes out of context.</p>
<p>I find the whole issue about as interesting as the debate on whether or not Wagner&#8217;s music is anti-Semitic. That is, it can be interesting, but just barely.</p>
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